Eugene Volokh asks, "So what's the problem with lesbianism?" One of his points is that
4. This leads us to the Bible. The Bible does, it seems to me, contain text that prohibits male homosexuality -- but I haven't seen any verses that prohibit lesbianism. I may well be missing something; if there are verses that touch on this, please let me know. But at this point, I really don't see any specifically scriptural objection to lesbianism.Without getting further into the discussion, let me point out Romans chapter 1, particularly verses 24 through 27:
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.Ok, to get slightly further into the dicsussion, I don't think it's the government's place to enforce morality. Is homosexuality a sin? Yes. But so is lying, and I don't think there ought to be a law against lying. If you are just looking for an excuse to beat up on Christians, then disapproval of homosexuality is the cause du jour; fine. But if you really want to understand what the Bible says about mankind, I wouldn't focus on this one issue. Everyone is a sinner, and everyone is saved by God's love, mercy, and grace.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Wait a minute: "if you are just looking for an excuse to beat up on Christians, then disapproval of homosexuality is the cause du jour..."????
I haven't heard of a single case of someone beating up a Christian because they disapprove of homosexuality.
I've heard of (and personally know of) a number of cases of Christians beating up on gays and lesbians because they disapprove of homosexuality.
Who's got the problem?
Hi J Matthew. Without doubt the Christians who "beat up" on homosexuals have a problem. Christians are not supposed to judge, rather to spread the word and pray for those according to the word are in error. Christians should disapprove of homosexuality as they should of all other behavior that drives a wedge between man and God. The judgement however is not for man to make.
Hi Eugene - I am not advocating minute laws that cover every area of life. However so that the air is clear and we see clearly - the government does have laws against lying (and slander and other sins of that nature.) Furthermore, as imperfect as any human government is, the Bible is still quire clear that governmental authority is from God and is good to be a deterrent (i.e laws) to immorality and wrongness.
yes, absolutely, i agree with Brad.
wel i have a question. what is the limits in the bible for what lesbianism is. i mean obviously men can have sex with men but women physically cant,is that why it isnt mentioned? and i wasnt sure wether the unnatural sexual temptations women had in the romans 1 chapter ment having sex with animals because in leviticus it says about men having sex with men(doesnt mention women) and then goes onto saying women should not have sex with animals. so is there actually such thing as lesbianism and if so what is the act of it that is wrong in the bible?if a girl doesnt have sexual feelings for another girl but wants to show how much they love each other( im sure you probably wont understand this) is it wrong to go up to base 2? im purley asking this for the benefit of a family member not understanding where it is wrong in th ebible and i cannot answer her on this so a bit of help would be nice to understand how i can discuss this with her so she understands. thankyou
Well, women can have sex with women. Anyone can take something and twist it or pervert it.
Women engaging in sexual acts with each other regardless of whether or not they harbor sexual feelings for the other (I'm confused at your comment on this part) is wrong. See verses that MW outlines in his post.
Again, this all based on the information you provided in your comment...maybe if you are more specific about "base 2" and the definitions of certain terms you provid would help in explaining this issue.
annonymous, perhaps you should take a look at the Biblical implications of the word purity in order to better explain to your friend/family memeber (hopefully she is your friend) to explain to her why her lifestyle is wrong. The Bible doesn't just say dont commits sexual acts. It says that we should "flee from sexual immorality" (1 Cor 6:18) one reason being that "Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually imoral person sins against his own body" and Jesus said (not that it is carries any more wiat than the rest of the Bible because it was all inspired by God) that he (or she obviously) who lusts after antoher has commited adultery with them in thier heart, and I'm sure that we all would agree that adultery is SIN. So in short, its not the actions that we take that intitiate the sin process, it's the heart behond them. An I know from my personal experience that when I used to satisfy my sexual desires, because I wasn't married, I was going outside of what God had meant to happen within the bounderies and covenant of marriage. And this act without argument is us putting our desires before God and His plan and is idolatry...hope this helps...continue to research and He will provide the answers you need. There's more than enough in Scripture to show a person that WANTS to see it. If they don't want to , well then they won't. Prayers and love, His princess.